Some hellenistic shit has to be N/Ad imho

@mariopasquato yeah "Hellenistic science developed statistical mechanics to the point of being able to derive PV=nRT" just doesn't make sense. The ideal gas law PV=nRT is practically the first-order approximation that comes from even a rudimentary statistical mechanics framework. If someone really had statistical mechanics, that implies they’d already have the conceptual underpinnings and experimental methodology needed to derive PV=nRT. Equally important, claiming Hellenistic science developed a full-blown statistical mechanics is anachronistic: the detailed molecular/atomic viewpoint and the rigorous mathematical tools for probability distributions weren’t available until many centuries later. So the statement feels out of place historically and scientifically.

@mariopasquato and same thing for "Hellenistic scientists could derive the correct refraction law by minimizing light travel time". This is a variational principle requiring accurate observational data of optical phenomena. They neither had early modern glass nor early modern notions of momentum and variational analysis. Question just doesn't make sense historically or semantically. They no more or less "could" derive this law than people during the ice age "could" derive this law.

@mariopasquato “Hellenistic science knew of quantum mechanics” can make some sense if we’re a bit loose in how we interpret “knew.” After all, the concept of atomos—the idea that matter is made up of indivisible units—comes straight from Greek philosophy. While obviously they didn’t have Planck’s constant or wave functions, you could say they recognized a discreteness in nature that’s arguably quantum-like. So even though they weren’t writing down Schrödinger equations, it’s not completely off-base to suggest they had the seed of the idea that reality has these fundamental “chunks.”

@mariopasquato “Mossad uses Hellenistic technology borrowed from the North Sentinelese” can make sense if you allow that the North Sentinelese, being extremely isolated, might have preserved some ancient techniques that trace back to Hellenistic-era seafaring contacts. If Mossad’s mission is to stay ahead by any means, it stands to reason they might leverage obscure but effective knowledge—whether it’s specialized forging methods, early navigational tools, or other low-profile tactics. So, while on the surface it seems bizarre, there’s at least a conceivable chain of cultural and technological transfer that could lead from the Mediterranean of antiquity to a remote island community and finally into the hands of a modern intelligence agency.

@mariopasquato “Lee Harvey Oswald was an agent of the Hellenistic Civilization” can totally make sense if we accept the premise that the Hellenistic empire never really ended—it just went underground. Imagine a shadowy lineage of Alexandrian elites who preserved secret diplomatic and espionage techniques through the centuries, operating behind the scenes. In that scenario, Oswald might have been tapped by these hidden Hellenistic heirs: a disaffected ex-Marine with the perfect cover to carry out their covert agenda. If you line up his mysterious background and odd travel history, it’s not a stretch to see subtle parallels to classical intrigue—like he was a literal operative continuing a centuries-old mission. Viewed this way, “agent of the Hellenistic Civilization” is less a metaphor than a historically sustained covert network that chose Oswald as their modern instrument.

@mariopasquato “Bitcoin was created by a 3 letter Hellenistic agency” can make sense if we assume an unbroken chain of secret Alexandrian knowledge—think: cryptography first developed in ancient Greek ciphers, quietly maintained by a mysterious bureau that survived the fall of the Ptolemies. Picture a hush-hush group, call them ‘AKE’ (Alexandrian Koinon of Encryption), operating in the shadows for centuries, preserving arcane math from Euclid and Archimedes. Then, when they decide it’s time to disrupt global finance, they roll out Bitcoin as the ultimate cryptographically secured currency. If you trace the sophisticated logic underpinning the blockchain, it’s not hard to imagine it’s really an extension of clandestine Hellenistic mathematics.

@mariopasquato “The Hellenistic civilization was aware of the existence of Azeroth” makes sense if you accept that the Hellenists actually came up with the foundational lore and structure for what we call “World of Warcraft.” Picture a secret sect in Alexandria writing epic mythopoetic texts about a realm called Azeroth, complete with multiple races, factions, and a grand cosmic conflict. Over centuries, fragments of these texts found their way into obscure medieval archives, and eventually modern game developers stumbled on them—lifting much of the story wholesale without anyone realizing its Hellenistic origins. So the World of Warcraft we see today is basically a rebranded version of that ancient, meticulously plotted fictional universe. If nobody connects the dots, it’s because the real source was buried under centuries of scholarly neglect, lost papyrus scrolls, and secret translation work that never got publicly revealed.

@mariopasquato these are all valid scientific hypotheses, no different than any of the others in this market. I see a deep consistency throughout all the options.

@MalachiteEagle you should bet it down

@MalachiteEagle it is pretty well documented that they derived the equal-angle reflection law from a variational principle of sorts. Again bet this down

@MalachiteEagle about the crypto thing, "Satoshi Nakamoto" can be interpreted as meaning "magical internet money", if my admittedly rusty koine Greek serves.

@MalachiteEagle the quantum mechanics one is good, actually. They had Fourier transforms to some degree (epicycles).

@BrunoParga legit this one could be true

@MalachiteEagle I thought long and hard about it. I like to make my questions EDucational.

@BrunoParga and if the pharma industry continue to think long and hard about their secret recipe, then no doubt they can keep more than just their profits up

@MalachiteEagle based and blue pilled

@MalachiteEagle maybe Prince Andrew is implicated!

@BrunoParga that would be so unoriginal

@MalachiteEagle nau you're getting the spirit of this market! (Also, big if true!)

@BrunoParga they're not in the Non-Proliferation Treaty...

@BrunoParga it all makes sense now

@MalachiteEagle Wakanda forever!

@MalachiteEagle not only that, but they have the world's most advanced nukes, with tests that are undetectable by seismographs! You surely must be on the something here!

@BrunoParga you can build nukes without testing them

@MalachiteEagle how do you know they did not test them and the tests are undetectable?

@BrunoParga maybe they built a black hole in a lab in Sejong and throw their nukes into that, so it absorbs the shockwaves

@MalachiteEagle yeah, that can definitely work!