By when will a second Starship / Super Heavy launch tower be operational?
By when will a second Starship / Super Heavy launch tower be operational?
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Jul 3
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2025-03-01
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Flight 10
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2025-07-01
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2024-09-01
Resolved
NO
2025-01-01
Resolved
NO
Flight 7

Operational will mean that a launch has happened from the tower (full stack or just booster or ship by itself), or a catch (of either booster or ship) has been attempted. "Attempted" will mean that it was announced as the plan for the flight and the flight launched, even if the flight was not successful or the catch was aborted.

All dates are "on or before".

Current plans are that this launch tower will also be at Starbase, however that is not required. An operational tower at Cape Canaveral or elsewhere would also count.

Related question with different criteria:
Will Starbase mount a Starship on a second orbital launch mount tower by December 2024NO

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No launch before 1 March
8th flight:
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-8
preparing to launch as soon as Monday, March 3.
The upcoming flight will fly the same suborbital trajectory as previous missions

Doubt pad B ready for a catch but even if ready there is no launch to catch on or before 1st March 2025. No worries if you want to wait a couple of days before resolving, though waiting doesn't seem necessary.

@EvanDaniel Resolve 1 March 2025 please.

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@EvanDaniel 2025-03-01 can resolve NO

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@EvanDaniel another please resolve for March 1st...

@mods creator pinged 3 times 1st 6 weeks ago, resolve please

https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1893019265550496158
FCC document notes that Starship Flight 9 (after the upcoming launch) has the option of Ship returning to the launch site for a catch. Although unconfirmed by SpaceX, Flight 9 has the potential of reflying Booster 14, with Ship 35, and both returning to the launch site, with Booster returning to Pad A and Ship to Pad B.

answered10mo
Flight 7
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@EvanDaniel resolve no please i'm broke

answered10mo
2025-01-01
bought Ṁ200 2025-01-01 NO3mo

@EvanDaniel resolve no pls

@EvanDaniel
1 Sept can resolve

10mo

Hopefully this is obvious from the description, but in case not:

The tower needs to either (attempt to) catch or launch something (or both). If it's functional as a catch tower, but incapable of supporting a launch, that will still count for this question (despite it being called a "launch" tower in the title). Description text takes precedent over title.

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Flight 7
10mo

@EvanDaniel As with the dates, this is "on or before". If the second tower launches or catches flight #7, this resolves Yes. "Flight" meaning orbital(ish) flight, aka IFT-7 or whatever they're calling it by then. Hops and such presumably don't count towards the number, but might count towards the tower being operational.

If the first one is destroyed before a 2nd is fully operational, does it count as a "2nd" one? (What if it is re-built in the same spot)

10mo

@percentage Excellent question, which I should have thought about and addressed when writing this. Thank you. I think both versions are interesting questions.

If "no", it gets hard to judge what counts as having two operational at the same time if there are questions about repairs and checkouts. "Used in a launch or landing" is a very easy and clear metric, but what if only one gets used in a given launch and the other has recently finished construction or repairs?

If "yes", then it's a little complicated by the difference between a new tower on the old site and a repair to the old tower.

I think the version that's clearest to judge and most separate from other questions is "when is a tower that isn't the current one functional". Or "when is the second tower functional, regardless of the state of the current one". There are already questions about potential damage to the existing tower (Will the first attempt to catch a starship booster with Mechazilla result in the booster explodingNO ). So looking only at other towers and not the existing one will make this question (hopefully) a little easier (just forecasting a construction project).

So we'll go with that version: "second" means a new tower, not at the current site (so not a rebuild or repair of the existing tower).

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