Will OpenAI hint at [read description] or claim to have AGI by 2025 end?
💎
Premium
1.8k
Ṁ920k
2026
35%
chance
Waiting for the inevitable "No company in the history of ever has announced AGI, so base rates alone say this market should be 1%"
From OpenAI employee: [tweet]
-5.0%
on
@cloudprism This is definitely a joke but maybe a small possibility it should count as "hinting at it".
Last week, DeepMind came out with a new paper called Levels of AGI: Operationalizing Progress on the Path to AGI (arxiv link) where they attempt to make the definition more concrete. They also discuss "levels" similar to how we have levels for autonomous driving: [image][image]I have my fair share of criticisms for how vague some stuff sounds here, but still, found it interesting enough to share here.
Significant for the market, I must mention that the board has been reduced from 6 to 4 members today. The remaining people (i dont know how safety pilled they are) will be the ones, as things stand, to define whether AGI has been achieved,
With the new board and greater Microsoft influence I am expecting the bar to claim AGI and cut off Microsoft's access to be higher.
Ok how about this? I think will unfold in the coming weeks. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/exclusive-sam-altmans-ouster-at-openai-was-precipitated-by-letter-to-board-about-ai

OpenAI's original definition for AGI is as follows:

"By AGI, we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work."

  • This is the definition used for the purposes of evaluating this prediction unless there's a change proposed by the board (or another governing body of OpenAI with such permissions as to modify the charter) of OpenAI to this definition.

  • By "Hint at", it is meant that instead of a direct claim, OpenAI takes actions that were otherwise reserved for the special case of having achieved AGI. Since it is not possible to define something as intuitive as "hint at" apriori, I will judge that part subjectively, and am not going to trade in this market to avoid a conflict of interest.

    • "Hint at" could be understood as a weak claim to AGI by OpenAI's official actions or statements.

Here is a diagram illustrating the governance structure of OpenAI:

The following is a quote from the original post by OpenAI, OpenAI's structure:

Fifth, the board determines when we've attained AGI. Again, by AGI we mean a highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work. Such a system is excluded from IP licenses and other commercial terms with Microsoft, which only apply to pre-AGI technology.

An action that would "hint at" OpenAI achieving AGI would be the exclusion of a specific state of the art AI system from IP licenses and other commercial terms with Microsoft while their partnership with Microsoft remains more or less the same structurally (although the composition might change).

Same market for a longer time-frame is below:

Get
Ṁ1,000
and
S3.00
Sort by:

Would the stuff about strawberries etc have counted positively for this in 2024?

(We now know the outcome was lackluster, but the hype was significant)

It would make sense to have the @mods who will resolve this question share their current thinking here.

Right now we're betting on how some mod will interpret how the creator and/or the (majority of?) traders interpreted the market. Or would have interpreted the market, had he/they known about the change in the agreement between OpenAI and Microsoft.

My take: This was supposed to be a proxy for "Does OpenAI think it created AGI", by using their agreement with Microsoft as a proxy. That agreement changed in a substantial way and I suppose this market would not exist in the alternative world where the current OpenAI-Microsoft agreement holds.

bought Ṁ120 YES

"We are now confident we know how to build AGI as we have traditionally understood it. We believe that, in 2025, we may see the first AI agents “join the workforce” and materially change the output of companies. We continue to believe that iteratively putting great tools in the hands of people leads to great, broadly-distributed outcomes."
https://blog.samaltman.com

@WilliamK ai agents is not agi

reposted

What did Jimmy Carter know about OpenAI? Jimmy Carter maybe is the last of the whistleblowers they needed to be handled by Altman. Now the AGI is coming. New year, new AGI!

@CryptoNeoLiberalist I had no idea Carter was involved with OpenAI. Can you post a link with more info? Thanks

bought Ṁ1,000 NO
bought Ṁ750 NO from 22% to 21%
bought Ṁ50 YES at 23%

Who resolves this if OP deletes account?

bought Ṁ5,000 YES
bought Ṁ1,000 YES

I think this might count! They just brought on the ARC-AGI benchmark creator to announce that their new model, o3, beats human performance on the AGI benchmark. This seems very much like "hinting" that they have AGI.

opened a Ṁ5,000 NO at 50% order

I think it's incredibly impressive but imo they just say it's human level in some domains and not enough domains for it to count as hinting? but yeah it's gonna be open to interpretation. NO limit order at 50%

@Bayesian I bet no before, but I gotta admit it’s super cool we’re at the point where it’s open to interpretation or not if we’re gonna hit AGI. Would have imagined that would have taken a few more years.

"Hint at" has a very particular meaning in this market - read the description. It's still quite unclear, but as I understand it, the intent is to capture OpenAI directly or indirectly invoking the AGI clause in their charter and/or contract with Microsoft

@jack @Simon74fe having the creator of an AGI benchmark imply that there's a CHANCE that your model is AGI seems like a borderline hint, tbh, but I agree this might not yet meet the criteria described by the creator.

I also personally do not think this is AGI by any means, lol

bought Ṁ200 YES

@SirSalty There's a pretty good argument that OpenAI's behaviour already qualifies as "hinting" it has AGI.

sold Ṁ29 NO

@SirSalty I don't think they will do this before completing their migration to a new corporate structure

@SirSalty but that should obviously not count right? the article itself suggests that "hint at AGI" may be used not because AGI has been achieved but because some execs want to get out of a contract. In the latter case, this market should, imo, clearly not resolve true.

sigh. surprise surprise. the ambiguous clause i didn't like allows for this market to resolve true, even if consensus is OpenAI did not achieve AGI and perhaps only tried to get out of a contract.

does anyone know how to reach arbiters for markets of deleted accounts? for firstuserhere i was pretty confident they were interested in actual AGI, and wouldn't resolve true / update the hint at clause. for arbiters i have no clue how literal they'll take the resolution criteria.

Manifold should implement a mechanism where markets with no active owner can be auctioned off

How about a couple of weeks of gratitude for magic intelligence in the sky, and then you can have AGI soon?

bought Ṁ70 YES

They have alreadt hinted yes through worldcoin X account

@joehunter No they didn't, they said "AGI is coming"

Comment hidden
© Manifold Markets, Inc.Terms + Mana-only TermsPrivacyRules