Ravens fans looking for the AP all-pro flippers

Only a group like sports journalists could mess up such an obvious choice

@Jessef0226 I agree, but now do last year

@StopPunting I’m guessing that fsctored into the decision not to give it to Lamar twice in a row. Hilarious in hindsight that Dak was more respected than Allen in last years vote too

@Jessef0226 yeah, I'm not saying it's right ideally the MVP shouldnt care about history and stuff (and to be fair, Allen did have a ton of interceptions last year, although they were far down the field so weren't as "bad", plus he had almost similar actual turnover worthy plays this year as last, just got more lucky this year). Allen also this year may have had the best sack avoidance season in NFL history which is also hard to capture in stats.

There's also annoying precedent where they just give it to "QB with the 1 seed" and Allen getting it (even though he didn't have the 1 seed) going 13-3 and beating the Chiefs and getting the 2 ahead of the Ravens kind of fit that.

I think all those things are stupid, I would have gone Allen (or even Dak or Purdy) above Lamar last year, and Lamar (or Burrow) over Allen this year. Yeah it's crazy how far Dak has fallen in a year. Perpetually the most underrated QB imo.

I didn't realize it was announced last night.

Thought Friday for some reason.

Shouldn't have set a limit at 53%

Next year’s market is up:

I don't really care either way, but the reactions are going to be funny. People get so emotional.

Why the jump?

@vibhav Someone on the inside probably saw the results.

@vibhav

Since Adrian Peterson (the last non-QB to win an MVP), every single all-pro QB has won the NFL MVP. Lamar is a 🔒

@No_uh man what a fucking STUPID post what kind of IDIOT would believe this shit?

Buying Allen purely on betting odds, which are still in the -250 to -400 range.

@JTBooth apparently I'm a dummy and Lamar Jackson won the all pro something or other and I'm going to lose now

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@dglid

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I understand people think it's his turn but it would be really unfair IMO to give it to him when Lamar's stats are near strictly better. If they don't want to give it to Lamar a 3rd time they should give it to Saquon or something.

@MattLashofSullivan I think the era of RB's winning MVP's are over. Not that there ever was a giant one or clear one. But I think commentators, analysts, coaches, etc. all realize now the true value of a QB in a game of the NFL.

More to your main point, I think Manifolders are probably right about Allen having better odds, despite me also agreeing Lamar has a better case.

@No_uh yeah I agree. I'm just saying, as a Ravens fan I won't be mad if they give it to an RB. I agree they probably won't tho. But why would you give the MVP to the second-best quarterback? Makes no sense. Grr.