
Update 2024-27-12 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): - Definition of Crying: Having wet eyes in environments such as a cinema is considered crying.
Resolution Criteria: Based on how the media perceived the event.
@TheWabiSabi It looks to me like the cabinet is in agreement on a nitrogen approach: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2025/04/25/kabinet-presenteert-startpakket-om-vergunningverlening-weer-op-gang-te-brengen
Are there signs of dissenters within the cabinet?
Also, whether the courts or parliament will agree is a different matter.
@TheWabiSabi Presumably you mean combat troops or peacekeeping troops, as opposed to trainers, advisors, cyberwarfare troops or soldiers escorting dutch arms shipments, which may already be in the country.
@TheWabiSabi Pretty cool that someone put this on the list! Well done. I wouldn't have thought of it.
@TheWabiSabi The Instagram link seems to have died, but I watched the thing on YouTube. I have an interest in saying yes but I don't think I saw tears? More like he got 'stuck'?
@TheWabiSabi tough call. i haven't bet on this question, and i won't. But i would say NO, this isn't crying. he's barely holding it in, though.
YT link (480p): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OGrxefEPBQ&t=276s
@Sqeedee Agree, but what is a cry... just wet eyes? Or waterfalls on his face?
It's definitely a hard one...
@TheWabiSabi Maybe we can look at it somewhat objectively by looking at how media is responding to it, if they are using words like 'emotional' (geëmotioneerd).
Or we can compare it to similar recent moments of politicians crying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjhyHBf330M&t=30s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0XT5We-qes
maybe that last one is also questionable.
I guess you can resolve it as yes.
I suspect we'll see Omtzigt cry some more anyway before the cabinet falls.
@Sqeedee if I was Omtzigt, I would have called it crying. But for me having wet eyes in a cinema is crying as well.
I will resolve yes later today, because of how the media percieved is.
@TheWabiSabi resolving this seems kind of premature? Omtzigt could still take a leave longer than 3 months? (Although I agree this leave was not longer than 3 months)
@EvdZ agree that this could be formulated better. If Omtzigt gets ill again I will unresolve this one, does that feel right?
Both directions are counted, since the responsible minister also counts both ways in his statements. His plans are to make 133 km of roads (counting both directions) permanently 130 km/h.